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 New Posts  Best hook for a rig with no shrink/kicker 1,985 views 
Porkypig1982
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Porkypig1982
   Old Thread  #28 17 Sept 2026 at 0.34am  1  Login    Register
Easy... esp trig hammer without a doubt
AideyKaye
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   Old Thread  #27 16 Sept 2026 at 1.02am  0  Login    Register
Personally, I think hook pattern doesn't have any bearing on what happens when using supple braid unless the braid itself is being tightened to the lead upon the fish moving away. If you're using stuff like crumb over a bed of bait, you're relying on that fish to move off and tighten the braid up, otherwise a motionless fish sucking and blowing on one spot will likely just blow it straight out. You're just praying the hook lands in a lip instead of blowing the hook out of the 15inch diameter mouth.

I try and use as stiff a braid or fluoro as possible in most situations. I often use short lengths of 20lb X Line with a wide gape over beds of maize, it hasn't done much harm. I don't like closing the gape too much as (in my eyes) it reduces the chance of a good hook hold far if the hook takes hold further back in the mouth.
HBFrenchy
Posts: 44
   Old Thread  #26 14 Sept 2026 at 11.09am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #24
KD rig design, can't be better with only hook and braid
My favorite rig this season on the river ! Always pin them down
Andy__C
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Andy__C
   Old Thread  #25 14 Sept 2026 at 10.58am  1  Login    Register
Mugga's are really good here, I've also done really well with the trighammers - never both with shrink tube with those on a german or coated braid based rig.
Breammagnet
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Breammagnet
   Old Thread  #24 14 Sept 2026 at 10.45am  0  Login    Register
krank size 8 or 6, whip two turns down go under the hair another 3 or 4 turns ..jobs a good un
lilharbs
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lilharbs
   Old Thread  #22 13 Sept 2026 at 9.22pm  0  Login    Register
Mugga in a size 4, never had one fail and doesn’t need a kicker or tubing to be super effective and aggressive.
rodrest
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rodrest
   Old Thread  #21 12 Sept 2026 at 6.15am  0  Login    Register
I've been using the korda kranks just like this with no problems. Size 4 barbless
Porkypig1982
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Porkypig1982
   Old Thread  #20 11 Sept 2026 at 9.33pm  0  Login    Register
Imo a long shank hook with inturned eye...
Something like the esp trig hammer would be perfect 👌
ip100
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ip100
   Old Thread  #19 8 Sept 2026 at 11.14pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
Yes it will, there are so many patterns of hook out these days there really is no need to risk doing it
framey
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framey
   Old Thread  #18 8 Sept 2026 at 8.51pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #16
It could but highly doubtful.
Is there a need to though nowadays with all the different manufacturers and patterns?
you could probably find one that is what you need.
cinisimon
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cinisimon
   Old Thread  #17 8 Sept 2026 at 7.55pm  0  Login    Register
Gardner mugga for me, i use the rig you describe for almost all my fishing and it work well with the mugga, i haven't lose a carp for years with it due hookpull
HBFrenchy
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   Old Thread  #16 8 Sept 2026 at 6.38pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
I was about to start a new subject about increasing hook eye angle with pliers
Could it create a weak spot on the hook ? 🤔
inzenity
Posts: 473
inzenity
   Old Thread  #15 8 Sept 2026 at 5.39pm  0  Login    Register
A long shank. Personally i think those with an in turned eye are a bit too much, those you see in the shops are way too extreme. 10 degrees would be ok, straight is fine too, you can always use your pliers to get that 10 degree angle.
brooksie1986
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brooksie1986
   Old Thread  #14 8 Sept 2026 at 4.45pm  0  Login    Register
Gardner cvr are a really aggressive pattern, no need for shrink tube a great with braided hook lengths. Just buy a smaller size then normal as they come up very large
HBFrenchy
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   Old Thread  #13 8 Sept 2026 at 0.43am  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #10
Your right about the angle, I still have some somewhere in m'y storage
However, the point is trash, you would better go on solid brand to get something sharp
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