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In reply to Post #14
Carpology has always been terrible for that, it used to get on my tits.
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I bought Carpology last month on a whim and felt the same about the quality. It is simply not worth the money. Missing words, typos, stray characters and formatting
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In reply to Post #12
IMHO my take on it, the learning curve. For a hobby involving a lot of waiting & Patience, not many youngsters & adults included in some cases seem to be able to wait or learn skills by their own mistakes/ dead ends / successes and slowly gain the knowledge by trial & error anymore, they all want the end result/s now, and dare I say it... almost like a finished download into the brain :-(
It seems to be the way kids are being taught socially now. With Ai a lot of the learning process is being ignored, but it doesn't make it irrelevant. It's a bit scary that if their internet signal goes, they won't have the knowledge to apply to think for themselves as a lot of it is think and forget, hopefully some will stick in there. Having said that, they'll probably be a lot more successful from the 'off' as they might not make as many learning mistakes as we did, generations past. You have to ask from that pov, with end result being all that counts, if anglings future is so bright from a mental pov, will anyone stop to smell the roses.
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In reply to Post #10
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAID 'Quote' ....
I can imagine they might watch a long form film depending on how it's presented but I can't see them reading a book.
I think the whole scenario devalues, not just fishing.
IMHO my take on it, the learning curve. For a hobby involving a lot of waiting & Patience, not many youngsters & adults included in some cases seem to be able to wait or learn skills by their own mistakes/ dead ends / successes and slowly gain the knowledge by trial & error anymore, they all want the end result/s now, and dare I say it... almost like a finished download into the brain :-(
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In reply to Post #10
100% this
The internet didn’t just ruin magazines and the high street - it’s made us stupider and less cultured.
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The highest participation hobby in the country should not be losing its readership unless it's doing something wrong.
Call me pessimistic but, as the younger generation come into the hobby more and more, short form videos will, and probably are, already taking over. I can imagine they might watch a long form film depending on how it's presented but I can't see them reading a book.
I think the whole scenario devalues, not just fishing, but is that just a 'old' perspective and what our father and grand fathers said about the generation before them.
I watched a Mozza v Ai vid last night, I lasted about 3 mins from a 1hr + film. I spent longer waiting for the Ai reply than any content, as did they. It just shows how Ai technology takes away from any form of craft to me....being reliant on a WiFi signal to tell you what to do 😡 I know it was sort of in jest but I can see people actually doing it. I suppose if it makes them happy then fair enough but it's not for me.
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Those old magazines contained articles written by people who could actually write. The quality of writing in mags like carpology has totally bottomed out, because they have nothing to say. Back then, the writing made you feel like you were there and conjured an atmosphere; similar to many of the great books. People like Tim Paisley deserve a medal for keeping such a quality publication relevant for so long. Nowadays, most people struggle to string a sentence together and don’t have the attention span to read more that 140 words.
The internet didn’t just ruin magazines and the high street - it’s made us stupider and less cultured.
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In reply to Post #7
Quote: WHSmith has more train spotting and knitting mags than it does fishing mags.
The internet killed the magazines. I would say that the topics you've mentioned probably highlight that fact. At a guess I bet 80% of trainspotters and knitters are old enough to have never got to grips with Google.
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In reply to Post #2
As I said years ago, blaming the cost of paper for the decline of mags was an excuse. Thanks to AI, any which way the question is worded shows that the price of paper remained stable between 2009 and 2019. Unless anyone can enlighten me, I just feel a certain generation of angler got bored of the advertorials.
WHSmith has more train spotting and knitting mags than it does fishing mags.
The highest participation hobby in the country should not be losing its readership unless it's doing something wrong.
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I haven't bought a magazine in many years as like you've already said, the content was getting very repetitive and stale and there were more ads than articles. Shame as I used to loce getting them, Carp Talk and Carpworld are the 2 I miss the most.
Being honest I'm finding the same with books. I really got into collecting angling books a few years ago and got a decent collection but not seen one I've wanted in a couple of years. To be honest some of the ones I bought before that I found a tough read, so it sadly feels like the written word is dying.
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for example, Martin Gibbinson on The Method, he caught loads and was different to the norm.
Maybe that's where I get my love of it from, I can't remember, but I'm on my 2nd wind with method, been using it almost exclusively for at least 10 years +, 1st time round was late 80's when I couldn't afford a boiles.
I used to love reading the Tony Davis Patrick Globetrotter articles, really fired the imagination 😍
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In reply to Post #3
Thrown most of mine away too. Kept the special ones like 10/15/20 year editions of Carpworld but the rest went.
Shame as the articles back in the day were gold, so much more than nowadays "tie this rig, use this bait" they actually educated and gave different perspectives. Used to love reading about different things, for example, Martin Gibbinson on The Method, he caught loads and was different to the norm.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not "old School" and I enjoy watching the latest releases from Korda and the like but just feel we have lost something along the way.
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Towards the end of the mag hay day they were filled with more ads than articles, that sounded the death knell for me and I stopped buying them 🙁 Threw away all my Carp Worlds as I needed room in the house, wish I wouldn't have done now, had them all from #1
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I stopped buying the mags when i joined this forum in 2012, got fed up with seeing the same, re- hashed stuff again and again.
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Back in the day I used to buy loads of Carp fishing magazines, (I much prefer print) and there were loads to choose from, Big Carp, Carp Talk, Carpworld, Carp Addict, Carpology, Total Carp, Advanced Carp Fishing, Crafty Carper and maybe a few more that I have forgotten. Plus the likes of Sub Mag.
Sadly they have all dwindled and we are left with Carpology, (which I subscribe to) and Total Carp. You can of course get digital formats of some but that doesn't interest me at all, preferring to pick up something tangible and flick a page so to speak.
Yes I know a lot of the articles are tired and cover off the same old "how to" basics but there's always something worth reading. But that's not the point here.
I very rarely buy Total Carp but with a long train journey ahead last week I picked up a copy of Total Carp from WH Smiths, (or whatever they are called these days) to read on the journey. From the first couple of pages I thought I had picked up Carpology by mistake, the font and layout was just the same, then a few pages in I thought, "I have seen this article before" and on looking back at the editorial info at the start the "Editor in Chief" is Joe Wright....aka Carpology. I flicked through the rest of the mag and it was literally a re-hash of Carpology articles so they have obviously bought them out.
Sad state of affairs that we may soon have just the one dedicated Carp magazine on the shelves for those that still like print. Can't see Total Carp lasting that long if all they are doing is duplicating the Carpology content.
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