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tommo7567
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tommo7567
   Old Thread  #26 15 Aug 2026 at 9.30pm  0  Login    Register
I gave the cork ball/paste pot basemix a go today.

I think the issue previously was one of patience, or lack of, and too much water. Around 35 ml per 100g of basemix is just right. As was leaving the rough mix in a sealed plastic bag for 10 minutes, before a quick knead and rolling.

So, for anyone who wants to give it a go, the key is adding a small amount of water in gradual steps definitely works with this basemix.
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #25 11 Aug 2026 at 9.29pm  0  Login    Register
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Thanks πŸ™
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #24 11 Aug 2026 at 3.09pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #23
He uses a gelling agent to replace eggs, apparently.
tommo7567
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tommo7567
   Old Thread  #23 11 Aug 2026 at 2.44pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #17
Sorry, missed this. Thanks. I wasn't aware AH was an 'eggless' mix. Are all of their baits the same?
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #22 11 Aug 2026 at 2.43pm  0  Login    Register
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πŸ˜‚ can it detect and repel bream and small chub too? Or would that be another upgrade? Probably the one I cant afford 😭
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #21 11 Aug 2026 at 9.30am  0  Login    Register
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Oh yes πŸ˜‚....but like the fast show sketch 'even better than that dear' πŸ˜‚

They're also thinking of using a localised quick release ionotropic glutamate blocker in the bait which will act on its Lateral Pallium, temporarily shutting down its neural communication, so it doesn't associate it's location or sensory inputs with danger, then it'll happily trough on any old tat....so AiB tells me πŸ€”...all true obviously...Derry

Edit, apologies op ☺️
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #20 11 Aug 2026 at 8.20am  1  Login    Register
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πŸ˜‚

Will there be an upgrade you can buy that singles out your new pb?
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #19 10 Aug 2026 at 9.18pm  0  Login    Register
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Yep, your boilies will know what the Carp want before they do, they'll auto arrange themselves to lead the Carp directly (or covertly) to your bait and in future releases of AiB will be able to mimick the taste of that carps preferred flavour πŸ˜‚

....but bait boats will still be fair game πŸ€£πŸ‘
tommo7567
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tommo7567
   Old Thread  #18 10 Aug 2026 at 8.20pm  0  Login    Register
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Yeh...i got that πŸ˜‚

But baits with ai.....πŸ€”πŸŽ£
Beyonce
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   Old Thread  #17 10 Aug 2026 at 8.19pm  0  Login    Register
Just ask the guys at Baitworks, they are helpful. I asked the same about the Atlantic Heat hookbait kit and cork balls, he said use an egg.
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #16 10 Aug 2026 at 6.17pm  0  Login    Register
In reply to Post #15
πŸ˜‚
framey
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   Old Thread  #15 10 Aug 2026 at 5.46pm  1  Login    Register
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When it was said
β€œ google says”
Most of the time it was believed within reason
Now it’s β€œAI says β€œ
No one believes any of it lol
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #14 10 Aug 2026 at 5.37pm  0  Login    Register
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AI baits though?!?

It was a joke based on you saying

I've had a chat with 'my' AI bot

Ruddy AiπŸ˜‚
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #13 10 Aug 2026 at 4.55pm  0  Login    Register
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I haven't and I really should. I'm being a stubborn bloke and learning the hard way I guess!
AI baits though?!?! Interesting concept, I'm sure someone can make money from selling that πŸ˜€
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #12 10 Aug 2026 at 4.29pm  0  Login    Register
I can't see why I should use eggs if the mix doesn't require them. I'm pretty sure the point of no eggs is to reduce the amount of fat in the end product and thereby making it more water Soluble. The advantage of that is allowing the attractants within the bait to disperse more effectively into the flow.

A mate who initially had the issue, overcame it eventually and produced some lovely smooth paste just using water. He mixed some on the bank too, using river water. I probably (do) need more patience. I am crap in the kitchen and that doesn't help πŸ˜‚
vossy1
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   Old Thread  #11 10 Aug 2026 at 1.26pm  1  Login    Register
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Have you asked baitworks for advice, sod Ai Baits, never heard of them πŸ˜‚
Baitman
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   Old Thread  #10 10 Aug 2026 at 12.16pm  0  Login    Register
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The original richworth pop up mix was supposed to be mixed with water but the texture was far too crumbly, so i mixed with eggs and it was perfect.
Try eggs πŸ₯š
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #9 10 Aug 2026 at 9.22am  0  Login    Register
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Sorry, didn't make that clear. It's a dry base mix that is mixed with water rather than eggs
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #8 9 Aug 2026 at 10.31pm  0  Login    Register
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Why did you need to mix the paste with water?? The stickiness of the paste probably comes from the inclusion of soluble milks like Sodium Casienate.😁
tommo7567
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   Old Thread  #7 9 Aug 2026 at 5.34pm  1  Login    Register
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I started using PF last year. Mainly for large river barbelling. The freezer boilies are as stated, not a hard boilie. They freeze well and can be re-frozen which I assume is due to them not containing eggs (is that albumin?).

They do make a hard hooker which seems a bit more potent and is good for rivers with Crays in. A lot of my winter fishing is done with paste, and I had a nightmare trying to make it from the 400g cork ball/paste pot. Mixing with water left me with the stickiest mess since the work sticky was invented. A mate also had the same problem.

I've had a chat with 'my' AI bot and it tells me the problem occurs because the 'thirsty milk proteins and marine extracts' need time to absorb the moisture and become fully hydrated.
Shame I didn't ask it last year as I reverted back to my usual John Baker paste mix in frustration.

Anyhow, the bait definitely works for barbel so I can't see why it wouldn't be a good cold water bait for carp. Bream and chub do like it too though, so.... 😭
Westmidsmoaner
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   Old Thread  #6 29 Jul 2026 at 7.25am  1  Login    Register
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They are lovely soft baits .. I'm positive you will be impressed .

roosterbooster
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   Old Thread  #5 29 Jul 2026 at 2.14am  0  Login    Register
just purchased 5kg i will let you know how i get on
kells
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kells
   Old Thread  #4 25 Jul 2026 at 12.51pm  1  Login    Register
I'd say with the quality of the ingredients in these baits. High quality milks Casiens etc. There probably as close to a old school HNV bait as you are likely to get. Expensive, granted.. but you won't need a lot of them..
Westmidsmoaner
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Westmidsmoaner
   Old Thread  #3 25 Jul 2026 at 11.10am  1  Login    Register
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I use them for barbel and think they are fantastic . I would 100% use them for Carp as well .
AnglingDays&Way
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   Old Thread  #2 25 Jul 2026 at 10.35am  1  Login    Register
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If they work for barbel for they will work for carp and vice versa.
roosterbooster
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roosterbooster
   Old Thread  #1 24 Jul 2026 at 10.21pm  0  Login    Register
hi all has anyone used baitworks pro flow boilies? , i know there dedicated for barbel but i thiking the carp would love them
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