 Ultimate Milk Protein base mix?
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In reply to Post #126
You are wellcome!
FMR omega it's a soy concentrate from Holland, its AA profile is similar to Standard fishmeal. A substitution in fact.
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In reply to Post #123
Thanks. Interesting recipe. Had to look up the FMR Omega. Seems to be a vegetable protein mix of non-disclosed composition, but the recommended feed level is 5 to 10% only in agricultural feedstuffs.
Not sure what the coconut powder brings apart from attempting to copy the flavour of Cell (which may/may not be coconut powder).
Overall though, I suspect this is probably a better mix than a lot of the stuff that is sold
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In reply to Post #124
You answered your own question mate, before you tested it on the fish in the tank.
All this testing on fish in tanks. Natural carp are effected by the moon. So are carp in a tank, maybe less so, but they are still effected. I know, that if I give some carp in a tank, something on one moon phase... They are not going to take it, or get excited by it. Same thing, right moon phase... Boom.
Not you Viking, but all these scientists, don't even really understand how a carp works in the first place. In my head, their tests mean nothing. The fish does not have a natural diet. Give a starving tank fish, something crap, it will still go mad for it.
Your fishing will tell you far more than any tank test mate. Don't be to wrapped up in that. Honestly.
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In reply to Post #41
I just tasted my Peptopro and it has a distinct bitter/sour taste while the hydro whey is much more mellow and milky. Not that this really matter much.
I tried introducing both in the tank and both induced food search and sampling. Pepto seemed to be spat out faster. If I should judge from this the whey seemed more popular. However, testing is pretty worthless without repetition so don't take this as gospel.
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In reply to Post #1
Hi HW,
And here you are.
Sweet milk bait. from TheBaitMan 
FMR omega - 25%
Cornmeal (white) - 20%
Nutrilac. - 20%
Yogurt powder. - 12%
Miccelar Casein - 4%
WPC 80. - 3%
Whey Hydrolisate- 4%
Egg albumin - 2%
Lactose 20 - 3%
Coconut powder - 5%
Niger seeds - 2%
Poppy seeds - 2%
Eggs. - 4-5
CSL liquid - 15ml
To freeze immediately after rolling
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In reply to Post #112
BB
I hope we can agree to disagree on this, everything I have have experienced with my baits suggest that there is far far more to attraction than AA's there really is. And yes I am suggesting carp have taste preferences, absolutely certain.
I really really don't care what science says about either of these statements, it is completely irrelevant to me.
I have never said I use vecon etc as a protein source, I only mentioned it connection with its use as a Human taste enhancer and that it can be overloaded, and the coincidence or otherwise that it is based on HVP.
Thought I would follow your advice and look at the UCN thread, well eventually found it, sorry I missed it was on another forum site. Anyway it has 1500 posts....might be a while before I get through it...but I will let you know what I think.
Bob
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In reply to Post #113
Hi NW,
Yes, he did awhile ago, but since then he posted the gist of his, then current mix, which used three selected AAs as its main attraction.
I think, at the time, he was in touch with a lot of research that was testing single, double and triple AA attraction.
BB.
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In reply to Post #118
Yes I remember your story at another thread here 
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In reply to Post #118
Classic!!!
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In reply to Post #117
Ok, then I will not touch it with a dirty stick 
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In reply to Post #116
Viking,
Yes. It's Northern baits stuff
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In reply to Post #114
FPM
Daphnia Extract? Is that sold anywhere?
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In reply to Post #111
NW,
Yes, 70ml per kilo of the thick stuff.
Your mix sound pretty similar to mine, except we did not hydrolyse it further. I also used 20% krill meal.
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In reply to Post #109
My favorite hydros are Pure Aminol and Daphnia Extract. Didn't notice any overdose effect with any of these liquids.
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In reply to Post #112
I thought MM used his 'Bromelain Soup' method, BB?
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