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charlesrl

Posts: 101

#24 18 Jul 2026 at 1.19pm

In reply to Post #23
I see your point, and that's all fair enough. I'm not going to sit here and pretend i know the ins and outs of business or tax etc cos i don't, thats not me. I'm just taking it for what it is.

The guy himself, nope, I don't know him. Never met him. I follow him on Instagram, that's as far as it goes.

You're statement there is absolutely false. He hasn't introduced any tax by commission. Have you even looked at the website, or the items on Temu?
The Temu price, is the Temu price. Its not more because he gets a tiny percentage. Temu take the tiny loss for the sake of his commission, not the buyer.
If it makes anyone feel better, you don't even have to follow his links. Find the same items on temu, you'll see its they're roughly the same prices.

As ridiculous as the perception is, surely you can see my point of a pack of 50 x hooks for say 3 quid, against a pack of 10 for 6 quid.
Both made and purchased in/from china, maybe from the same factory, difference being is not going to OMC or a tackle shop to purchase them.

55s

Posts: 698

#23 18 Jul 2026 at 12.39pm

In reply to Post #20
Carp Tax = adding a premium to a product because it has been repurposed from something else. See Nash moon chairs, bait grinders, better packs, etc etc.

Carp tax doesn’t appear on products that were made for the original intention, that for the last 45 odd years has been my understanding. Given your example below (which I strongly disagree with) he has introduced his own tax by commission! If you want to keep more money in your pocket, why would you not buy direct? Why do you see the value in his tax, but not a mark up for the companies innovating products, marketing products? Supporting magazines, shops and the sport in general?

When Trakker produce a bivvy for £1k and the factory does a direct rip off for £500 then the‘saved’ £500 isn’t ‘tax’- it isn’t reinvested in the sport, this country but is an absolute scam. If fishing was under threat in the uk, do you think Temu or Ali express would care? Would fox? Nash? Trakker - of course they would.

Would this bloke (you seem to know him) walk round the tackle box with his disciples and show how customers could save money, getting them to peruse the products, have a look and feel and then provide the link to save money? If that OK? When the tackle box shut thier doors, or Johnson Ross, or Fox will his mission be complete, that he has educated us all and help us save money? He’s not Martin bloody Lewis.

I could probably find most things you buy cheaper - from a picture frame in hobby craft, a shirt from TK max or a frying pan. Once we get to this stage and you need some screws to mend something at home, or you need to pop in and buy a bag of bait for a day session, you’ll be crying that the high street is just vape shops and charity shops.

Look up the meaning of the word tax and you will see the ridiculousness of this perception. We may be paying mark ups, for company profit, for marketing, for innovation, for people livelihoods but tax it certainly isn’t.

Everyone wants to save money, but there is a balance and the current trend of social media blaggers who think they have invented fire is ridiculous. Open your eyes - save as much as you can but this blagger is short sighted and worse than that wants to skim a bit on top…

charlesrl

Posts: 101

#22 18 Jul 2026 at 12.30pm

In reply to Post #21
You talk a good game and i get what you're saying, but there's nothing innovative about Ali Hamidi starting OMC and releasing hooks we can get elsewhere, whip kits, sleeves, swivels etc etc. and charging silly money, because of who he is. That's called taking the P**S as far as I'm concerned.

...and anyway, where do you think these big brands are getting there gear? They're buying from china and selling to the uk market.
Why can they buy from China and not me??
You can't honestly say you think fox, omc, korda etc etc is made over here?

Beyonce

Posts: 1705

#21 18 Jul 2026 at 10.55am

In reply to Post #20
How do you think that ‘carp tax’ is saved? You’re short cutting all the guys over here doing their jobs, paying their taxes, paying their national insurance. Your money goes directly to a Chinese business, which in turn goes to the Chinese government (with a few pence for the social media grifter).

The ‘no mark up’ that this guy so proudly displays on his website is the wages of the working man in this country.

Why do you think innovation has dried up over here now? Why would the British cottage industries bother putting money into developing something like the Bagless Wonder now? Carpy Chris would have a link to a knock off direct from Temu for 40p within two months.

charlesrl

Posts: 101

#20 18 Jul 2026 at 10.15am

In reply to Post #19
Some good points there to be fair, and some of which i agree with.

I do completely agree with the real innovation side of it, but I'm afraid alot of that has completely gone.
Ali Hamidi for example (and no hate towards him, although I'd admit I'm not a big fan), he's started a company (fair play), and most of the S**T they're selling is repackaged (in ridiculous packaging I'll add but it's different i spose), stuff that's already out there.

What i will disagree with is the carp tax mantra. If i was going to buy a product from the shop (could be anything, not just fishing), and someone offered/warned me of an exact cheaper alternative at a quarter or fifth of the price, just different packaging, I'd thank them for saving me some money. Same goes for this.

55s

Posts: 698

#19 18 Jul 2026 at 8.39am

In reply to Post #17
This is so true and I can’t believe the support this guy is getting for what is essentially accelerating what the Far East has always wanted, last man standing so they can hold the world to ransom.

If you look at the bigger companies, not the little start ups who ship swivels and pva from China and split down bulk to scam a few quid, this is hugely damaging to not just carp fishing but life in general.

Think of the little bits of innovation- things like spinner swivels, bait screws etc. someone has gone through all the cost and prototyping just for the Chinese factory to scam, make copies or sell direct to anybody.

I have a mate who imports from China and as you will see from sites such as Temu these are not about making a profit in fact they are not about making money at all, they are about globally destroying manufacturing everywhere until at some point they are last man standing and can charge what they want. All their factories are on Government subsidies - it doesn’t matter what they make or sell just as long as they produce something.

In ,y opinion ‘carp tax’ is a ridiculous mantra, years ago during the developing years it was about a company finding an existing product (shrink tube, pva nuggets etc etc) and just replacing a sticker to make it carp tackle, I get and support that. But blatant copies and some bloke showing how to access these and being lauded a hero - not for me.

The trouble is we all now do it, the more we do, the more shops will close their doors, they are already being used as showrooms. Imagine developing a product, costing hundreds sometimes thousands of £ to get it spot on (spomb?) risking your livelihood on an idea, for the dream to be over within months when the near perfect copies flood the market, for probably less that they were buying trade - I’ve been there and done it.

We all want to save a few quid but we should all be aware that when we moan and groan in 5, 10 or twenty years time, when all we have is temu and the prices have risen, we got what we deserved. I’m not suggesting that this situation is recoverable or that you should be paying for the real deal - what we should be aware of is that the bigger innovative companies are not taxing us, they are paying huge sums for staff, marketing, field testing just to be ripped off at the very point where they should be making margins. Get someone else to do the legwork then scam a copy.

Whilst many companies (Nash- trakker etc.) might not have helped themselves with some ridiculous products - trust me we will miss them when they’ve gone.

charlesrl

Posts: 101

#18 18 Jul 2026 at 0.01am

In reply to Post #17
Yep, fair enough.
I guess that's how the world goes round.

Me personally, will try and spend less where i can, so i can maybe put abit more on my own table.
Naturally i hope the guys from kent and essex do well out of life also, and i wish them the best.

For what its worth, there are things you can't buy from Temu, or things I'd rather see in the flesh that i do/have/will get from my local tackle shop.

Beyonce

Posts: 1705

#17 17 Jul 2026 at 11.34pm

Yep, fair enough.

I’d rather pay my £5 for a packet of hooks from a tackle shop. I know exactly what I’m getting because I’m holding it in my hand. The guy from Kent who works in the shop gets a wage, the guy from Essex who drives a fork lift in a tackle company warehouse gets a wage and they both get to put food on the table for their families.

If the hooks turn out to be rubbish I take them back to the shop and they give me something else. Maybe I’m old fashioned like that.

charlesrl

Posts: 101

#16 17 Jul 2026 at 11.21pm

In reply to Post #15
Fine, and fair enough.
We'll agree to disagree on motives behind the website etc , but honestly, you're wrong 😂

In regards to the purchase side of it, you're purchase would be with Temu, not him.
Pay with a credit card and I'd imagine you'd have some protection.
From the commission side of it, Temu would just give him a tiny percentage of sales.

Look at it from a different angle though. I'd rather save 80% of my own money and him get a small bit of commission, than pay full price for the same tackle and line the pockets of the owners of the big tackle brands.

Beyonce

Posts: 1705

#15 17 Jul 2026 at 10.58pm

In reply to Post #14
I don’t have a clue who he is, certainly no hate 😂

I can just see through it, another social media carp ‘influencer’ with a new angle.

What happens it you buy something from one of his links and it doesn’t turn up? Or a package of tea towels turns up instead of a reel you spent £50 on direct from China? Does he give you a refund? He’s already made his money through the affiliate link commission, where does that leave you?

charlesrl

Posts: 101

#14 17 Jul 2026 at 10.43pm

In reply to Post #13
I didn't say he didn't get anything from it.
I'm fully aware how it works.

What i said was, hes not bothered about making money from it, its fully about helping the everyday carp anglers not spending ridiculous amounts of money on the same items repackaged and sold for 4 times the price.

You obviously dont like the guy, thats up to you, but if you can see through the hatred enough to either look on the website, or on temu, you'll see the same tackle items.
Christ some stuff on temu even has korda packaging in the product photos.
Eat that up 👍

Beyonce

Posts: 1705

#13 17 Jul 2026 at 10.18pm

In reply to Post #7
The small print on the website even states that they are affiliate links. Seems to me like another carp grifter, just using a different angle. You can eat it up if you want though..

Baitman

Posts: 5156

#12 17 Jul 2026 at 7.39pm

In reply to Post #11
Reps from companies just ordering bulk from china, their brand on packets, selling as their own crap.
Profits keeping all their mates in free crap, free tickets so they catch mug simmos for the gram. Keeps the wheels turning.
Was just the same in the mags, carpworld doing articles for the advertisers, a money-go -round for all the boys.

When Ali and the others were talking about getting the youth into fishing, thats just to sustain a sellers market, like peddling drugs, get the kids hooked early...

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charlesrl

Posts: 101

#11 17 Jul 2026 at 6.52pm

In reply to Post #9
100%... once you see the reasoning behind it, its hard not to disagree with him.
Whatever someone my think of him, if you take the idea, video and content for what it is, I'd say its hard not to have some respect for it.

charlesrl

Posts: 101

#10 17 Jul 2026 at 6.49pm

In reply to Post #8
Thats unfortunate, and it happens. I get it though, once it happens, you say to yourself never again.
I've been there too, but with big brand stuff. Korda hook snapped, only once, but once is enough. Also an OMC hook barb break-off which was odd.

I actually use some bank table bits and pieces and have never had a problem.


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