 Short supple section (combi rig)
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In reply to Post #37
I have been using the “slip d combi multi Darrell peck wonder rig” almost exclusively for 3 years and my catch rate on my syndi has never been better. Mainly wafters or bottom baits but also the occasional pop up. I’ve had many boat battles and fishing stuck in thick weed and never had any issues with materials snapping or letting me down.
If I’m fishing somewhere slightly softer or at risk of landing in blanket weed etc, I use the ESP tungsten loaded straight through with a double loop in each end and one of them stripped back to the inner core
90% of the time I’m on clear ground or in the edge and for that I use the Korda XT snag leader tied with an albright to thinking anglers duo fleck braid. A small blob of putty about 2 inches from the lead and then a lump on the knot means it always lands how you want and the braid has just enough stiffness to stop tangles
Can’t recommend it enough
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A couple i have just tied up while waiting for the rain to go off so i can get my rods back out.
Top is albright knotted to 25lb amnesia, bottom is looped onto a temu flouro boom.
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In reply to Post #35
Thanks for the replies. I'll try it with a boilie and see if it hangs better 👍
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In reply to Post #33
Hi mate, that Slip D is pretty wirey out the packet, but you want that if you're going to use the same rig over time. Otherwise you'll end up with something too supple and prone to tangling.
Once tied, get hold of the 'braid' bit and twiddle\twist it around with your fingers.
This will initially loosen it.
Even if you don't do that, over time it will naturally loosen if you keep using the same rig. (as intended)
Personally, I don't use the same one over time and re-tie mine (I tie it different, as I don't like the 'slip' part), and as such, I use the TA Duo Fleck as it's slightly more supple.
FWIW, 'Pecky' discussed it in one of the recent CarpFix Podcasts. Can't rem. which one.
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In reply to Post #31
100% mate. I’ve used Armakord in 30lb for the braided section of a multi combi in the past. I’m convinced it’s the same braid as the ‘slip d braid’, just in a different colour. They both become far more supple in water.
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In reply to Post #23
I tied some of these rigs up the other day , I followed Darrell Pecks advice to the letter using his 4 turn Albright knot with doubled over braid, it was very strong , but I didn't like the way the hook hung when picked up from the micro swivel, the doubled over braid recommended seemed too stiff to allow the hook to hang down ! No matter where I had the loop opposite the barb as recommended by Darrell or further down the shank , it just didn't seem to work very well . He catches a lot of fish on this rig but it didn't seem to have very good rig mechanics to me ? Anyone else tried or used it using the components he recommends?
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In reply to Post #30
Dont test it by holding the swivel. Stick a boilie on it and it comes alive.
It is a rig that works really well. I use a tungsten bead at the end of the boom to help drag the hook into the right area to help prevent ejection.
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In reply to Post #30
Thinking out loud: Is the braid more supple when wet? So might hang better?
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In reply to Post #23
I tied some of these rigs up the other day , I followed Darrell Pecks advice to the letter using his 4 turn Albright knot with doubled over braid, it was very strong , but I didn't like the way the hook hung when picked up from the micro swivel, the doubled over braid recommended seemed too stiff to allow the hook to hang down ! No matter where I had the loop opposite the barb as recommended by Darrell or further down the shank , it just didn't seem to work very well . He catches a lot of fish on this rig but it didn't seem to have very good rig mechanics to me ? Anyone else tried or used it using the components he recommends?
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For me a black amnesia or stiff flouro boom is far more reliable than a stripped back coated braid. And you can use different braids depending on your needs. I use really supple when using pva and stiffer when casting with just the hookbait. Coated braid tangles too often when I cast distance even when hitting the clip and sooner or later the coating breaks at the knot.
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In reply to Post #27
I have previously done a single overhand knot and blobbed the tag end, then tightened the alright down until the overhand snugs up to the back of the knot.
With two pullers and testing to destruction it makes it bulletproof.
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In reply to Post #25
If you are worried about an Albright coming undone consider either a Rizutto finish with the tag end (a simple whipped lock) and/or a tiny dab of superglue.
I’ve never had one come apart and have caught some big fish on them.
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In reply to Post #25
I find that when you go for a stiffer coated outer material you will often find that the inner braid has more memory in it so will not be as supple and can often sit up slightly.
I have never had a Albright knot go, so cant see why it would be seen as a unreliable knot. Does take some skill to get right but one of the better knots for this application imo
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In reply to Post #23
I don't know why people bother tieing two materials together with a knot that can be very unreliable.
You can get the very same outcome (better imo) using a coated braid with a figure of 8 knot tied both ends and the coating stripped back just under the knot at one end or further down the coated braid if you need more length
If you need a stiffer boom use a stiffer coated braid, you want more supple use a softer one or even a thick leader braid works really well.
All that scaffolding and complexity does nothing to catch fish. Just lines the pockets of a few brands
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In reply to Post #23
It's very personal and takes some experimenting. I prefer it somewhere between 5 and 10mm. Any longer and I'm questioning if it's going to tangle.
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